OKC Rayo - OKC Resident

[OKC Supporter]

I forgot to tell you. The investment in Oklahoma City FC is been done by Rayo Vallecano, in the name of Rayo Vallecano, not Martin Presa. I listened Presa say this in a interview. He also said both clubs are independent. If one of them fails, the other will not be dragged.

That is good, and bad.

Good: It allows Rayo Vallecano to profit if the investment works. It also avoids the legal troubles I listed that could (would) bother the minority owners.

Bad: Rayo Vallecano is now tied directly to Rayo OKC. If a capital call is requested (if the organization requires more money from the owners) Rayo Vallecano will be subject to satisfying the additional investments needed or risk diluting its ownership % in Rayo OKC. Fans and supporters should be weary if Rayo Vallecano assets will be placed under liens to satisfy future debts of Rayo OKC.

Google Translator Translation:

Me olvidé de decirte. La inversión en Oklahoma City FC se ha hecho por el Rayo Vallecano, en el nombre del Rayo Vallecano, no Martín Presa. Escuché Presa decir esto en una entrevista. También dijo que ambos clubes son independientes. Si uno de ellos falla, el otro no va a arrastrar.

Eso es bueno y malo.

Bueno: Permite Rayo Vallecano beneficiarse si las obras de inversión. También evita los problemas legales que enumeré que podría (habría) molestar a los propietarios minoritarios.

Malo: Rayo Vallecano está directamente vinculada a Rayo OKC. Si se solicita una llamada de capital (si la organización requiere más dinero de los propietarios) Rayo Vallecano estará sujeta a la satisfacción de las inversiones adicionales necesarias o el riesgo de dilución de su propiedad% en Rayo OKC. Los aficionados y simpatizantes deben estar cansado si los activos Rayo Vallecano se colocarán bajo gravámenes para satisfacer futuras deudas de Rayo OKC.

[OKC Supporter]

Linked below, please find the Spanish Facebook page of Rayo OKC.

https://www.facebook.com/Rayos-OKC-3857 ... 5/?fref=ts

Their spanish Twitter profile is @rayosokc

To date, no real announcements have been made. It's very bad. Rayo OKC's marketing has not been very successful since announcing last Tuesday (Nov. 10, 2015).

No coaching hires announced, no player signing announced, no tryout dates set, no sponsors announced, no supporter groups formed... Nothing. Nada.

Google Translator Translation:

Vinculado a continuación , por favor, encontrar la página española de Facebook de Rayo OKC .

https://www.facebook.com/Rayos-OKC-3857 ... 5/?fref=ts

Su perfil española Twitter @rayosokc

Hasta la fecha, no se han hecho anuncios reales. Es muy malo. Comercialización del Rayo OKC no ha tenido mucho éxito desde que anunció el pasado martes ( 10 de noviembre 2015 ) .

No hay contrataciones de coaching anunciados , ningún jugador firma anunció , sin fechas tryout establecen , sin patrocinadores anunciaron , no hay grupos de hinchas formaron ... Nada .

[seguidor]

What is true is that the whole group of supporters, I am sure, don't give a damm this strange adventure, Of course, Martin Presa, as the owner of Rayo, can do whatever he wants but we, as supporters, think this does not have any sense.

We think the most important is to invest in Spain, not so far away. If he wants to make a big team he should start by bringing good players given that we have here lot of them.

AS you can see by the different answers, you will understand we love the team, el Rayo, not the owner, and these kind of things, Rayo-Oklahoma, we think is crazy.

Best regards.

[seguidor]

By the way, I have been in your country as I told you. I went to Tulsa and Oklahoma city .I am a fan of one of the best folksingers in Usa, from Oklahoma: The legendary Woody Guthrie. Who does not remember the post in his guitar ? "This machine kill fascists". He died lot of years ago but I have read about his life and his fight in favor of poor people.

[OKC Supporter]

What is true is that the whole group of supporters, I am sure, don't give a damm this strange adventure, Of course, Martin Presa, as the owner of Rayo, can do whatever he wants but we, as supporters, think this does not have any sense.

We think the most important is to invest in Spain, not so far away. If he wants to make a big team he should start by bringing good players given that we have here lot of them.

AS you can see by the different answers, you will understand we love the team, el Rayo, not the owner, and these kind of things, Rayo-Oklahoma, we think is crazy.

Best regards.

American soccer fans also think it's very strange. Rayo Vallecano is not perceived as a rich, affluent club with many resources. Many soccer fans associate the spending ability of the club in comparison to the salary pool it makes available to players (what the club pays its players compared to Real Madrid and Barcelona) -- which is at the bottom of all La Liga Premier teams.

How much debt did Martin Presa assume from the previous owner? In America, we do not know this number. Does he still have debt outstanding that he has to pay off? If so, I find it surprising that he's willing to invest in ventures (investments) such as Rayo OKC.

If the debt is paid off, Martin Presa is in great shape to speculate in foreign markets; so long as Rayo Vallecano does not face relegation to the 2nd division.

The budget from the 2014-2015 season projects that the club anticipated to make 7,000,000 euros (or $7,500,000 U.S. dollars). That's a lot of money (30%+ profit).

http://www.rayovallecano.es/presupuesto-de-la-temporada

Why has Martin Presa not been forthcoming to disclose how much debt he has assumed, and still has to pay off?

If the club itself is so profitable, I assume it distributes its earnings (profits) to owners in the form or dividends or distributions. Have minority owner ever received a check, pay-out or dividend associated to their investments?

Google Translator Translation:

Aficionados al fútbol americano también piensan que es muy extraño. Rayo Vallecano no se percibe como un rico, club de ricos con muchos recursos. Muchos aficionados al fútbol asocian la capacidad de gasto del club en comparación con el grupo salarial se pone a disposición de los jugadores (lo que el club paga a sus jugadores en comparación con el Real Madrid y Barcelona) - que está en el fondo de todos los equipos de la Liga Premier.

¿Cuánta deuda hizo Martín Presa asume desde el anterior propietario? En Estados Unidos, no sabemos este número. ¿Todavía tiene deuda pendiente que tiene que pagar? Si es así, me resulta sorprendente que él está dispuesto a invertir en empresas (inversiones) como Rayo OKC.

Si se paga la deuda, Martín Presa está en gran forma para especular en los mercados extranjeros; siempre y cuando el Rayo Vallecano no enfrenta el descenso a la segunda división.

El presupuesto de los proyectos 2014-2015 temporada que el club anticipa para hacer 7.000.000 euros (o $ 7.500.000 dólares estadounidenses). Eso es un montón de dinero (30% + de lucro).

http://www.rayovallecano.es/presupuesto-de-la-temporada

¿Por qué ha Martín Presa sido próxima a revelar la cantidad de deuda que ha asumido, y todavía tiene que pagar?

Si el propio club es tan rentable, supongo que distribuye sus ganancias (beneficios) a los propietarios en forma o dividendos o distribuciones. Ha dueño minoritario vez recibido un cheque, fuera de pago o dividendos asociados a sus inversiones?

[kosladeño]

Martin Presa bought Rayo for 968€. Yes, exactly 968€ (no thousands, no millions). But He accepted to be responsible about the debt. When he bought the club, the debt was probably around 50.000.000 €. The huge part of the debt was with taxes spanish agency (around 40 millions). Actually they don't say anything about how much debt is paid, and much is still to pay.

[Maga]

Martin Presa bought Rayo for 968€. Yes, exactly 968€ (no thousands, no millions). But He accepted to be responsible about the debt. When he bought the club, the debt was probably around 50.000.000 €. The huge part of the debt was with taxes spanish agency (around 40 millions). Actually they don't say anything about how much debt is paid, and much is still to pay.

One little thing, Rayo Vallecano's debt will be paid with Rayo Vallecano's money. Presa doesn't have to pay anything. Great deal!

Una cosilla, la deuda del Rayo se debe pagar con el dinero del Rayo. Presa no tiene que pagar nada. ¡Gran negocio!

[kosladeño]

Martin Presa bought Rayo for 968€. Yes, exactly 968€ (no thousands, no millions). But He accepted to be responsible about the debt. When he bought the club, the debt was probably around 50.000.000 €. The huge part of the debt was with taxes spanish agency (around 40 millions). Actually they don't say anything about how much debt is paid, and much is still to pay.

One little thing, Rayo Vallecano's debt will be paid with Rayo Vallecano's money. Presa doesn't have to pay anything. Great deal!

Una cosilla, la deuda del Rayo se debe pagar con el dinero del Rayo. Presa no tiene que pagar nada. ¡Gran negocio!

Exactly. Rayo is getting benefits from TV rights and seliing players: Coke to Sevilla, Michu to Swansea, Leo Baptistao to Atlético Madrid...

[OKC Supporter]

Have the local courts acknowledged that minority shareholders own 3% of Rayo Vallecano? In what financial event do the 3% minority owners financially participate? If Rayo Vallecano was sold to a third-party, would the minority owners get a check (% of sale proceeds)?

For Raul Martin Presa to pay the debt he assumed, he has to distribute earnings (profits). Have dividends been paid from Rayo Vallecano? If so, the minority shareholders should have been paid as well.

Translation:

Haga que los tribunales locales reconocido que accionistas minoritarios poseen el 3% del Rayo Vallecano ? ¿En qué evento financiero hacen los propietarios de un 3% de las minorías participen financieramente ? Si el Rayo Vallecano fue vendida a un tercero , serían los propietarios minoritarios obtener un cheque ( % de ingresos de la venta ) ?

Para Raúl Martín Presa a pagar la deuda que asumió , tiene que distribuir las ganancias (beneficios ) . ¿Han sido los dividendos pagados de Rayo Vallecano ? Si es así , los accionistas minoritarios deberían haber sido pagados también.

[OKC Supporter]

I'm am still confused about who owns the investment in Rayo OKC. On Rayo OKC's website, they list Raul Martin Presa as the owner.

http://www.rayookc.com/ownership
http://www.rayookc.com/about-us

I will be interested to see the financial statements next year.

[2107]

¡No le dejéis a Presa volver a Madrid! Don't let Presa come back to Madrid!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60dUYBEDEAc

Si no queréis ver a Presa haciendo el ridículo en Yukon, no pongáis este vídeo, o sí, podéis ponerlo si queréis aprender inglés pero hasta el 22:02, más allá no

[Arch Enemy]

"En Vallecas se manifiestan contra el Rayo OKC apoyando al Energy
Curiosas imágenes desde el Rayo-Athletic, en la que se vieron a varios aficionados vallecanos acudir al partido con banderas del Energy FC, el otro equipo de Oklahoma."

http://us.as.com/us/2015/11/29/futbol/1 ... oc=comp_tw

[OKC Supporter]

http://newsok.com/rayo-vallecano-supporters-use-okc-energy-fc-merchandise-in-protest/article/5463650